Random Let's play make that poke broken: rby gengar edition

Fun ways to improve gengar in rby.
No more poison type. Useless in rby. Means No weakness to eq or psychic.

Tauros no longer 2 hits it. Rhydon no longer one hits it.

Zam star and eggs 3hko.

Let's make night shade a base 100 ghost type move and remove the glitch where ghost doesn't effect psychics. It will hit super effectively now on zam, star, eggy, slowbro, hypno and the likes Hmmm. Now things are getting juicy.
But now ghost type doesn't hurt normals. How would Tauros gengar matchup go down then?


I think giving it glare would be sweet. Para on slowbro and eggs. Zam and star would out speed and twave... no good. and would no longer be switching into gar for fear of the newly buffed shade. So no switch read paras on them. Maybe glare wouldn't be so useful?

So after all this how would the gengar now be played? No longer as a lead I'm sure but a powerful sweeper who would decimate the current meta in the end game. Only fearing strong phys attackers. Lax and Tauros prob 3hko w/ EQ and goldon 2hko.

There now gengar is good and broken. Now that all that is out. Doing both changes would decimate rby ou I think. Zam star jynx eggy slowbro. Goldon is now 2hko by mega drain. 7 of 14 OU mons are now SOL. Cloy and laparas hurt bad by mega drain. Can't be blown up on like other soft targets.

New Moveset.

Night shade
Megadrain/psychic--- no mas thunder bolt
Explosion
Hypnosis/glare

So instead of making him broken I'll ask which change you would make. Would you rather keep night shade the way it is and lose psychic and ground weakness. Or keep weaknesses and gain super effective night shades with chance of crit? Which scenario would make the game more interesting?

 

100 BP Night Shade 2HKOs GolDon, I think. You don't need Mega Drain. If it doesn't, it'll come awfully close.

Hypnosis/Night Shade/Psychic/Explosion would be a good set. Psychic is your best attack against Tauros and Snorlax thanks to Special drops. Sleep, of course, is still useful, even with a broken Night Shade. Explosion is mainly for Chansey, who walls Gengar hard otherwise.

 

Oh, right. So much for that.

Make it a Special attack if you really want to make it broken.

 

True about razor leaf. My bad, and I see your point. Its really easy to break a Mon in rby, which I why I ask which change of the two would make the game more interesting. I don't think each one seperately would break him. I think the change to night shade would be more fun. And leave the weaknesses

 

Still got mega drain for don though. And right again. Night shade would need to be changed to special. But leave the poison typing making it a glass cannon. Would shake up the meta a bit but not be broken I think

 

I think changing shade to special and 100 bp while keeping poison type weaknesses would be the most fun and least broken change. Still gets ohko by goldon and 2hko by psychics and taurlax

 

Speaking of changing the BP of certain attacks, imagine if Dragon Rage also had 100 BP and was physical? The only OU Pokémon that avoids being 3HKOd on average is Slowbro, but that's not the big picture. What would really be significant is now being able to finish off Pokémon with less reliance on Wrap and no longer needing Hyper Beam, which would give it opportunities to go gung ho instead of spam Wrap. It also scares Gengar, who takes massive damage from it.

 

Its a cool idea. But perhaps this is why body slam and drill Peck are 85 and 80. Tauros 3hko almost everything but has to rely on hyper beam and play mind games.
So maybe dragon rage 85 bp?

 

Speaking of hyper beam. What if it had to recharge on a miss. I like it not recharging on a kill. If I am thinking like a child who is watching the cartoon. Hyper beam ko would be the end of that round. The opponent trainer would then send in the next challenger. But on a miss the pokes energy was just expelled but the fight is still on. So must recharge.

 

Enigami. About making a fighting type viable. Making karate chop an actual fighting type move for machamp. Would hit all the normals and rocks but still he walled by psychics. Could you see that going 1u.

 

Sorry..Title is a bit misleading. I wrote it only to get at the end question of which one would you pick. Hoping to start a good discussion.

 

I don't think Dragonite cares too much about making it physical. It's already got Wrap and Hyper Beam on the physical side; whacking Tauros/Cloy/Rhydon much harder is probably worth it IMO.

It'd help a lot, as it would make Machamp actually beat Chansey, but it's still got a poor Special and no reliable recovery or status. Outskirts of 1U at best.